Posted by: Tyler Rippeteau
Oct. 20, 2011
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Last week I came across this post by Ding over at Dings Beer Blog. For those of you too lazy to click the link Ding basically argued that the trend of the ultra-rare fad beers with exceptionally limited releases and enormous price tags is bad for the beer culture here in the U.S. He highlighted the recent madness surrounding the Founders release of Canadian Breakfast Stout (CBS) and he is right to say that much of this behavior, well, it downright sucks (to find out what exactly that bad behavior was you'll have to click the link above), both on the brewery's part in some cases and on the consumer's part in others.
With that said, however, I do not agree with Ding's general premise that the existence, promotion and hype of beers like this will lead to "breeding a whole generation of American geeks that will literally miss out on what the very ESSENCE of what beer culture and beer consumption is". Ding goes on to describe beer culture as one that is "relaxed, non-competitive [and] UNwinding of angst" and in large part, I agree with his definition. However, American beer culture, like it or not IS in the midst of a revolution and things are changing. I don't believe that Ding's definition of beer culture will disappear, but it is in the process of evolving into something more than what it was before.
For starters, relaxation is basically the reason I enjoy beer as much as I do. My methods for relaxing with beer may be different than others, though. The enjoyment of beer can be intensely personal and as unique as the individual. For me, sitting down to focus on a beer, and possibly even to write about it, is one of the most relaxing things I can do. Focusing on a beer and writing about it calms me down. I absolutely love sitting down, pouring a beer and then thinking about exactly how all of my senses are impacted by it - the sight, the smell, the feel, and the taste. I love it even more if I am enjoying that beer with someone else who can also appreciate all of those things as well and then discuss them with me. In short, each beer is a learning process and I have always loved to learn.
Of course, another aspect of beer culture (according to Ding) that I enjoy is the non-competitiveness of it. I am happy and proud to support many breweries that collaborate with each other and work together in order to support the greater good of the community. On a more personal level, beer, much like another love of mine, poker, brings people from all walks of life together in one place where they otherwise may not ever cross paths. Any type of person can enjoy good beer and I have met hundreds and hundreds of great people that would have never been in my life if it were not for this outstanding and delicious beverage.
While I do not believe that these aspects of beer culture are in any danger of going away or being lost, I do believe that in this new, high information age of beer that we here in the United States find ourselves in leads us to moments in our beer drinking lives that do, in fact, run counter to relaxation, unwinding and non-competitiveness. That is not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, there are many aspects of these very moments that are positive for many of us who are a part of the craft beer community.
For starters, sometimes, the thrill of the hunt is just plain fun. Tracking down that elusive beer can be a challenge and can also be very rewarding, regardless of how good the beer ends up tasting.
Hunting down Pliny the Elder, for example, was one of the most exciting experiences I have had involving beer. I was living in Chicago at the time and working on the DIPA Project here at 20 Beers in 20 Nights. As many of you have already read, my goal for that project was to review the top 20 most reviewed double IPAs on Beer Advocate. Living in Chicago at the time (and not knowing that I would be moving to Colorado six months later) I knew it would be tough to get my hands on. None of my trading partners out west were able to come through, my cousin from Oregon could not manage to bring any when she visited Chicago and during a visit to Denver the Falling Rock Tap Room blew their only keg of it just as I sat down at the bar.
So, I turned to Beer Advocate on my phone and called a couple places nearby that were rumored to have it. It turned out, the only place that did still have some was a couple of hours away in Estes Park. I thought to myself "we're this close and who knows where I'll end up living next year, so this may be my only chance to try it, especially on tap". My outstanding girlfriend agreed, so we drove up to Poppy's Pizza in Estes Park that night and sure enough, the Pliny was on tap. Robb, the owner poured it for us and then proceeded to talk beer with us for about a half an hour. We had an absolute blast, we had some fantastic pizza and Robb even sent us on our way with a few bottles on the house to try when we got back home. He then directed us to the liquor store that a friend of his owned and called her to ask her to pull some special bottles out for us.
The moral of that story? Was it worth it to drive two hours into the mountains and two hours back just to get a couple of glasses of beer? Was Pliny that good? Probably not. However, I was thrilled to have finally tried it, it was a really good beer and the experience was even better. We learned about many other Russian River beers that night that we knew nearly nothing about before, we discovered Poppy's, we got to meet Robb, I was able to get one step closer to completing my project and we simply had a ton of fun doing it all. None of that experience would have happened if it were not for a rare, probably over-hyped beer that I wanted to try. Now that we live in Boulder, Poppy's is only an hour away and we have been up there a couple of times to have some great beer and pizza since.
The great experiences, though are not the only positive here, often times the beer is actually better. I honestly think that Bourbon County Stout for example, is worth tracking down and worth paying $10 or $12 a bottle for. It is amazingly delicious. The Vanilla version was somehow even better. The Rumpkin from Avery that I recently waited in line for two hours for was completely worth it, even if we hadn't had the fun of the line party, $2 cans of Avery beer and some outstanding turkey legs while we waited.
Finally, the hype in itself actually does do some good for craft beer. One brewery's overly hyped beer may lead to another brewery's decision to experiment with that style. It turns out, barrel-aged beer is very, very tasty most of the time and were it not for a lot of the hype surrounding some of these types of beers, they would not be as widely available to us today. The hype can encourage innovation, it can bring media attention to the industry and most important, it gets people excited about drinking good beer.
Of course, as Ding very eloquently pointed out, there is a down side to all of this, but personally, I'll still keep my beer revolution and take the bad along with a whole lot of good.
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Tuesday, August 30, 2011
The DIPA Project Awards and Final Rankings (Part 2)
Posted by: Tyler Rippeteau
Aug. 30, 2011
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In case you missed Part 1 of this here it is. Yesterday we covered the rankings, but how about the awards? Yes, the DIPA Awards! If you don't know what we're talking about yet, click that link in the line above and get up to speed. If you do know what we're doing here at 20 Beers in 20 Nights then let's dive right in.
Best Overall Beer: AleSmith YuleSmith (Summer) - 8.5% ABV, 100 IBUs, San Diego, California
This was maybe the biggest surprise of the entire project for me. It was the last beer I reviewed and also the least reviewed beer on Beer Advocate out of the Top 20. I was expecting to like it, but not as much as I did. The taste was astounding, but the whole package was really great - particularly the appearance, which I will discuss in greater depth below. Congrats to AleSmith on this beer - going into this project I expected Bell's Hopslam, Avery Maharaja or Pliny the Elder to take the cake, but AleSmith managed to top all of those outstanding breweries and beers with their annual 4th of July celebration beer.
Worst Overall Beer: Moylan's Hopsickle Imperial India Pale Ale - 9.2%, 100+ IBUs, Novato, CA
I have nothing against Moylan's and, in fact, I loved their Barleywine and every other beer I've had of theirs. The Imperial India Pale Ale just missed the mark in my opinion. The beer lacked any balance, which is necessary with a beer that is as hopped up as a DIPA. It also seemed as though there was no consideration for how this beer would feel. It could have been saved if the mouthfeel weren't so abrasive. I needed a glass of water to help wash it down - that is not a good sign.
Best Tasting Beer: Bell's Hopslam - 10%, 69-136 IBUs, Kalamazoo, Michigan
This was an extremely difficult decision, I gave the 5 out of 5 rating (in the taste category) to four beers on the list, YuleSmith, Ruination, Maharaja and the Hopslam. Any one of them at any given time with any given batch of beer could probably take the cake in this category, but after having my fair share of Hopslam both on tap and in the bottle I have to say that Bell's wins this category by a hair with the consistency shown in this savior from early winter. It may be the best tasting beer on the planet.
Best Looking Beer - AleSmith YuleSmith (Summer) - 8.5% ABV, 100 IBUs, San Diego, California
This is one of the few categories that was a no-brainer. The color was absolutely gorgeous, the packaging is very appetizing and good looking and the head never fully dissipated throughout the entire pint. This was the most amazing feat in head retention I have ever seen. The only other times I have still had a solid layer of head at the bottom of the glass were the times that I had a beer completely foam up on me during the pour. This was not the case with the YuleSmith, the head was thick after the pour, but not abnormally so. It was just an all around pretty beer.
Most Overpriced Beer: Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA - 18% ABV, 120 IBUs, Milton, Delaware
Was I happy that I was one of the lucky few who got my hands on a couple of bottles of this year's 120 minute IPA? Yes. Was I happy to pay $19 for the bottle at a bar? No. Of course with an ABV as high as this and with the time and effort that went into creating this beer I understand the cost. That said, I do not think the quality of the beer matched the cost.
Best Smelling Beer: Russian River Pliny the Elder - 8% ABV, 100 IBUs, Santa Rosa, California
The only other beer that came close to this one on the list was Founders Devil Dancer. Otherwise, this was a runaway winner in the category. As I mentioned in my review, when I first tried this beer I kept my nose in the glass for five minutes before taking my first sip because it smelled like "delicious, hoppy, magical flowers." While overall, Pliny didn't come through as the experience it was hyped up to be, the smell alone was worth the hunt. And now that I am living in Colorado, with just a little effort I can track this smell down again.
Best Feeling Beer: Founders Double Trouble - 9.4% ABV, 86 IBUs, Grand Rapids, Michigan
This was another runaway winner. The Double Trouble was the only beer on The List that I gave a 5 out of 5 to in the mouthfeel department. The light, flirty carbonation added so much to this already remarkably tasting beer that I no choice other than to dole out a perfect score in the category. It does not get any better. On a separate note, I didn't explicitly mention this in the review, but had the color and the lacing been just a shade stronger I would have ranked this one right up there with my favorites and given it an A+. It's only real drawback is that it sort of looks like a light lager and the head/lacing isn't too impressive.
Best Beer/Music Pairing - Avery Maharaja - 10.54% ABV, 102 IBUs, Boulder, Colorado
You will probably not find this type of award anywhere else, however, throughout the process of reviewing the Top 20 most popular DIPAs on Beer Advocate I tried to match each beer up to a complimentary piece of music. Some didn't really have a good pairing, while others were obvious right away. The Founders Devil Dancer was, again, a close second in this category with a fairly obvious "Friend of the Devil" pairing, but Avery came out on top. The obscure Donald Byrd track that happened upon my ears while I was writing the Maharaja review was called "Cristo Redento" and served to add greatly to my experience. Oddly enough, although I was surprised by YuleSmith's last minute, come from behind victory to take the best overall and best taste categories, as I went back and reread my Maharaja review I noticed that I predicted that it was the only beer that could possibly knock off Maharaja for the best tasting. Funny.
And with that, I believe the DIPA Project is officially over. I intend to begin a new one very soon, but I am currently having a difficult time deciding on another set of 20 beers to write about. If you have suggestions feel free to make them. I also may take on more than one project at a time, depending on how much time I have, so feel free to make any suggestions even after I begin the next one.
A big thank you to everyone who has read and helped out with this project in any way. To the readers, thanks a ton for stopping by and motivating me to keep writing. To r/beer and Beer Advocate, thank you so much for providing me insight, thoughts, help and a good argument or two - a particular thanks to BAers ren and nevins for working out trades with me for YuleSmith and Double Simcoe respectively. Thanks to my brother-in-law Dan (And Happy Birthday Buddy!) for talking DIPAs with me on a regular basis and helping me track down Devil Dancer. Thanks to Kyle and Phil at Prairie Moon in Evanston who served me many of the beers on this list over the past year. Thanks to Carlos at Fischman's in Chicago for holding onto that 4-pack of Devil Dancer for me. Finally, thanks to Emily, my wonderful girlfriend for traveling all over the country with me this past year as we searched for schools and great beer. It would not have been anywhere near as fun without you. I'm probably missing someone, and if I am, I'll update this post. Until next time, stay tuned and Cheers!
Aug. 30, 2011
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In case you missed Part 1 of this here it is. Yesterday we covered the rankings, but how about the awards? Yes, the DIPA Awards! If you don't know what we're talking about yet, click that link in the line above and get up to speed. If you do know what we're doing here at 20 Beers in 20 Nights then let's dive right in.
Best Overall Beer: AleSmith YuleSmith (Summer) - 8.5% ABV, 100 IBUs, San Diego, California
This was maybe the biggest surprise of the entire project for me. It was the last beer I reviewed and also the least reviewed beer on Beer Advocate out of the Top 20. I was expecting to like it, but not as much as I did. The taste was astounding, but the whole package was really great - particularly the appearance, which I will discuss in greater depth below. Congrats to AleSmith on this beer - going into this project I expected Bell's Hopslam, Avery Maharaja or Pliny the Elder to take the cake, but AleSmith managed to top all of those outstanding breweries and beers with their annual 4th of July celebration beer.
Worst Overall Beer: Moylan's Hopsickle Imperial India Pale Ale - 9.2%, 100+ IBUs, Novato, CA
I have nothing against Moylan's and, in fact, I loved their Barleywine and every other beer I've had of theirs. The Imperial India Pale Ale just missed the mark in my opinion. The beer lacked any balance, which is necessary with a beer that is as hopped up as a DIPA. It also seemed as though there was no consideration for how this beer would feel. It could have been saved if the mouthfeel weren't so abrasive. I needed a glass of water to help wash it down - that is not a good sign.
Best Tasting Beer: Bell's Hopslam - 10%, 69-136 IBUs, Kalamazoo, Michigan
This was an extremely difficult decision, I gave the 5 out of 5 rating (in the taste category) to four beers on the list, YuleSmith, Ruination, Maharaja and the Hopslam. Any one of them at any given time with any given batch of beer could probably take the cake in this category, but after having my fair share of Hopslam both on tap and in the bottle I have to say that Bell's wins this category by a hair with the consistency shown in this savior from early winter. It may be the best tasting beer on the planet.
Best Looking Beer - AleSmith YuleSmith (Summer) - 8.5% ABV, 100 IBUs, San Diego, California
This is one of the few categories that was a no-brainer. The color was absolutely gorgeous, the packaging is very appetizing and good looking and the head never fully dissipated throughout the entire pint. This was the most amazing feat in head retention I have ever seen. The only other times I have still had a solid layer of head at the bottom of the glass were the times that I had a beer completely foam up on me during the pour. This was not the case with the YuleSmith, the head was thick after the pour, but not abnormally so. It was just an all around pretty beer.
Most Overpriced Beer: Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA - 18% ABV, 120 IBUs, Milton, Delaware
Was I happy that I was one of the lucky few who got my hands on a couple of bottles of this year's 120 minute IPA? Yes. Was I happy to pay $19 for the bottle at a bar? No. Of course with an ABV as high as this and with the time and effort that went into creating this beer I understand the cost. That said, I do not think the quality of the beer matched the cost.
Best Smelling Beer: Russian River Pliny the Elder - 8% ABV, 100 IBUs, Santa Rosa, California
The only other beer that came close to this one on the list was Founders Devil Dancer. Otherwise, this was a runaway winner in the category. As I mentioned in my review, when I first tried this beer I kept my nose in the glass for five minutes before taking my first sip because it smelled like "delicious, hoppy, magical flowers." While overall, Pliny didn't come through as the experience it was hyped up to be, the smell alone was worth the hunt. And now that I am living in Colorado, with just a little effort I can track this smell down again.
Best Feeling Beer: Founders Double Trouble - 9.4% ABV, 86 IBUs, Grand Rapids, Michigan
This was another runaway winner. The Double Trouble was the only beer on The List that I gave a 5 out of 5 to in the mouthfeel department. The light, flirty carbonation added so much to this already remarkably tasting beer that I no choice other than to dole out a perfect score in the category. It does not get any better. On a separate note, I didn't explicitly mention this in the review, but had the color and the lacing been just a shade stronger I would have ranked this one right up there with my favorites and given it an A+. It's only real drawback is that it sort of looks like a light lager and the head/lacing isn't too impressive.
Best Beer/Music Pairing - Avery Maharaja - 10.54% ABV, 102 IBUs, Boulder, Colorado
You will probably not find this type of award anywhere else, however, throughout the process of reviewing the Top 20 most popular DIPAs on Beer Advocate I tried to match each beer up to a complimentary piece of music. Some didn't really have a good pairing, while others were obvious right away. The Founders Devil Dancer was, again, a close second in this category with a fairly obvious "Friend of the Devil" pairing, but Avery came out on top. The obscure Donald Byrd track that happened upon my ears while I was writing the Maharaja review was called "Cristo Redento" and served to add greatly to my experience. Oddly enough, although I was surprised by YuleSmith's last minute, come from behind victory to take the best overall and best taste categories, as I went back and reread my Maharaja review I noticed that I predicted that it was the only beer that could possibly knock off Maharaja for the best tasting. Funny.
And with that, I believe the DIPA Project is officially over. I intend to begin a new one very soon, but I am currently having a difficult time deciding on another set of 20 beers to write about. If you have suggestions feel free to make them. I also may take on more than one project at a time, depending on how much time I have, so feel free to make any suggestions even after I begin the next one.
A big thank you to everyone who has read and helped out with this project in any way. To the readers, thanks a ton for stopping by and motivating me to keep writing. To r/beer and Beer Advocate, thank you so much for providing me insight, thoughts, help and a good argument or two - a particular thanks to BAers ren and nevins for working out trades with me for YuleSmith and Double Simcoe respectively. Thanks to my brother-in-law Dan (And Happy Birthday Buddy!) for talking DIPAs with me on a regular basis and helping me track down Devil Dancer. Thanks to Kyle and Phil at Prairie Moon in Evanston who served me many of the beers on this list over the past year. Thanks to Carlos at Fischman's in Chicago for holding onto that 4-pack of Devil Dancer for me. Finally, thanks to Emily, my wonderful girlfriend for traveling all over the country with me this past year as we searched for schools and great beer. It would not have been anywhere near as fun without you. I'm probably missing someone, and if I am, I'll update this post. Until next time, stay tuned and Cheers!
Monday, August 22, 2011
The DIPA Project Awards and Final Rankings (Part 1)
Posted by: Tyler Rippeteau
Aug. 22, 2011
As some of you who follow the blog already know I have just completed Project #1 - The DIPA Project. The goal of the DIPA Project was to taste and review the Top 20 Most Reviewed American Double/Imperial IPAs on Beer Advocate - in other words, the 20 most popular Double IPAs in the country.
As you might imagine, drinking 20 world-class beers was a lot of fun, but what surprised me most was how much I enjoyed the thrill of the hunt. It was a blast tracking down some of the harder to find beers and then to finally cross them off the list was very satisfying. With a sharp focus on a particular style of beer, I also had the opportunity to learn a ton about this popular beer style. Some of that I'll discuss here in this post, but what I'm sure you'll all find more interesting is how they all stack up.
Let's start with how the list looks on Beer Advocate today. The rankings here have nothing to do with quality, just quantity - more specifically, the number of times they have been reviewed on Beer Advocate's website. As you'll notice, Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA holds the top spot with over 3,000 reviews.
Now, if we rank these same beers according to their quality, measured by their BA average review scores (1 is the lowest possible, 5 is the highest possible), here's what we comes up with:
1. Russian River Pliny the Elder - 4.59/A+
2. Bell's Hopslam - 4.43/A
3. Three Floyd's Dreadnaught - 4.39/A
4. Stone Ruination IPA - 4.29/A
5. AleSmith YuleSmith (Summer) - 4.29/A
6. Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA - 4.25/A-
7. Great Divide Hercules Double IPA - 4.2/A-
8. Avery Maharaja - 4.18/A-
9. Lagunitas Hop Stoopid - 4.18/A-
10. Founders Double Trouble - 4.17/A-
11. Dogfish Head Burton Baton - 4.16/A-
12. Moylan's Hopsickle Imperial India Pale Ale - 4.16/A-
13. Weyerbacher's Double Simcoe IPA - 4.13/A-
14. Southern Tier Unearthly (Imperial IPA) - 4.13/A-
15. Oskar Blues G'Knight/Gordon Ale - 4.12/A-
16. Victory Hop Wallop - 4.06/A-
17. Founders Devil Dancer - 4.01/A-
18. Flying Dog Double Dog Double Pale Ale - 4/B+
19. Lagunitas Maximus - 3.91/B+
20. Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA - 3.86/B+
The average Beer Advocate score for these 20 beers is 4.1735, or an A-, which also happens to be the grade most often given by the BA community to beers on this list - 12 times. Interestingly, the three beers that were highest in Alcohol Content (Alcohol By Volume - ABV) occupied three of the bottom four spots on the list. Dogfish 120 ranked highest in ABV at 18%, but lowest in overall score. Founders Devil Dancer (12%) and Flying Dog Double Dog Double Pale Ale (11.5%) were the next highest in ABV and ended up at #17 and #18 respectively. The only beer above 10% to even crack the Top 10 in quality was Avery's Maharaja clocking in a 10.5% ABV and ranked 8th.
Conversely, the three beers with the lowest ABV - Russian River Pliny the Elder (8%), Stone Ruination (7.7%) and Lagunitas Hop Stoopid (8%) ranked #1, #4 and #9 respectively, all in the Top 10. The outlier in the ABV department was Lagunitas Maximus (8.2%) coming in at #19.
Additionally, the correlation between IBUs (International Bitterness Units) and ranking was interesting. While it was not as strong as the ABV correlation, it was interesting to note that most of the beers that were over 100 IBUs were in the bottom half of the list. Those that hovered around 100 or a little lower generally received higher scores.
Interestingly, it seems as though in the Double IPA category, Beer Advocate reviewers prefer a more reasonable alcohol content and a slightly less over-the-top hop profile.
That is not necessarily the case for me, however. It turns out the ABV did not impact my taste very much, but I love bitter beer and generally speaking the hoppier and more bitter, the better. Let's take a look at how I ranked these 20 beers:
1. AleSmith YuleSmith (Summer) - 4.85/A+
2. Bell's Hopslam - 4.75/A+
3. Stone Ruination - 4.68/A+
4. Avery Maharaja - 4.68/A+
5. Russian River Pliny the Elder - 4.53/A+
6. Founders Double Trouble - 4.4/A
7. Founders Devil Dancer - 4.33/A
8. Dogfish Head Burton Baton - 4.25/A-
9. Three Floyds Dreadnaught - 4.2/A-
10. Weyerbacher's Double Simcoe IPA - 4.2/A-
11. Oskar Blues Gordon Ale/G'Knight Ale - 3.95/B+
12. Lagunitas Maximus - 3.93/B+
13. Great Divide Hercules Double IPA - 3.9/B+
14. Victory Hop Wallop - 3.68/B
15. Lagunitas Hop Stoopid - 3.65/B
16. Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA - 3.65/B
17. Southern Tier Unearthly (Imperial IPA) - 3.6/B
18. Flying Dog Double Dog Double Pale Ale - 3.55/B
19. Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA - 3.48/B-
20. Moylan's Hopsickle Imperial India Pale Ale - 2.7/C-
My average review score for the group was a little lower than the average score from other BA members - 4.048, that is still an A-, but a lower one and the grades I most often doled out were A+ and B, both being awarded to five beers apiece. As I mentioned above, ABV did not seem to influence my score at all. To my surprise, IBUs did seem to impact my scores, but not in the way I expected. The beers that hovered right around 100 IBUs ended up doing the best with me. 100 IBUs is pretty typical for a DIPA and it was the beers on the edges of the style in terms of IBUs that fared the worst with me.
The three highest IBU beers, Weyerbacher's Double Simcoe (153), Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA (120) and Southern Tier Unearthly (150+) checked in on my list at #10, #16 and #17 respectively. Three of the four lowest IBU beers, Oskar Blues Gordon Ale (60), Lagunitas Maximus (72) and Victory Hop Wallop (70) ended up in the #11, #12 and #14 spots respectively. The only low-IBU beer that cracked my top 10 was the Dogfish Head Burton Baton (70) coming in at #8.
So what does this say about me? Probably not much except that I prefer a more traditional Double IPA. One that is about 100 IBUs.
On that note, I'm going to wrap this one up and coming soon I'll have my picks for the best beers in each category - look, smell, taste and feel. Cheers!
Aug. 22, 2011
As some of you who follow the blog already know I have just completed Project #1 - The DIPA Project. The goal of the DIPA Project was to taste and review the Top 20 Most Reviewed American Double/Imperial IPAs on Beer Advocate - in other words, the 20 most popular Double IPAs in the country.
As you might imagine, drinking 20 world-class beers was a lot of fun, but what surprised me most was how much I enjoyed the thrill of the hunt. It was a blast tracking down some of the harder to find beers and then to finally cross them off the list was very satisfying. With a sharp focus on a particular style of beer, I also had the opportunity to learn a ton about this popular beer style. Some of that I'll discuss here in this post, but what I'm sure you'll all find more interesting is how they all stack up.
Let's start with how the list looks on Beer Advocate today. The rankings here have nothing to do with quality, just quantity - more specifically, the number of times they have been reviewed on Beer Advocate's website. As you'll notice, Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA holds the top spot with over 3,000 reviews.
Now, if we rank these same beers according to their quality, measured by their BA average review scores (1 is the lowest possible, 5 is the highest possible), here's what we comes up with:
1. Russian River Pliny the Elder - 4.59/A+
2. Bell's Hopslam - 4.43/A
3. Three Floyd's Dreadnaught - 4.39/A
4. Stone Ruination IPA - 4.29/A
5. AleSmith YuleSmith (Summer) - 4.29/A
6. Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA - 4.25/A-
7. Great Divide Hercules Double IPA - 4.2/A-
8. Avery Maharaja - 4.18/A-
9. Lagunitas Hop Stoopid - 4.18/A-
10. Founders Double Trouble - 4.17/A-
11. Dogfish Head Burton Baton - 4.16/A-
12. Moylan's Hopsickle Imperial India Pale Ale - 4.16/A-
13. Weyerbacher's Double Simcoe IPA - 4.13/A-
14. Southern Tier Unearthly (Imperial IPA) - 4.13/A-
15. Oskar Blues G'Knight/Gordon Ale - 4.12/A-
16. Victory Hop Wallop - 4.06/A-
17. Founders Devil Dancer - 4.01/A-
18. Flying Dog Double Dog Double Pale Ale - 4/B+
19. Lagunitas Maximus - 3.91/B+
20. Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA - 3.86/B+
The average Beer Advocate score for these 20 beers is 4.1735, or an A-, which also happens to be the grade most often given by the BA community to beers on this list - 12 times. Interestingly, the three beers that were highest in Alcohol Content (Alcohol By Volume - ABV) occupied three of the bottom four spots on the list. Dogfish 120 ranked highest in ABV at 18%, but lowest in overall score. Founders Devil Dancer (12%) and Flying Dog Double Dog Double Pale Ale (11.5%) were the next highest in ABV and ended up at #17 and #18 respectively. The only beer above 10% to even crack the Top 10 in quality was Avery's Maharaja clocking in a 10.5% ABV and ranked 8th.
Conversely, the three beers with the lowest ABV - Russian River Pliny the Elder (8%), Stone Ruination (7.7%) and Lagunitas Hop Stoopid (8%) ranked #1, #4 and #9 respectively, all in the Top 10. The outlier in the ABV department was Lagunitas Maximus (8.2%) coming in at #19.
Additionally, the correlation between IBUs (International Bitterness Units) and ranking was interesting. While it was not as strong as the ABV correlation, it was interesting to note that most of the beers that were over 100 IBUs were in the bottom half of the list. Those that hovered around 100 or a little lower generally received higher scores.
Interestingly, it seems as though in the Double IPA category, Beer Advocate reviewers prefer a more reasonable alcohol content and a slightly less over-the-top hop profile.
That is not necessarily the case for me, however. It turns out the ABV did not impact my taste very much, but I love bitter beer and generally speaking the hoppier and more bitter, the better. Let's take a look at how I ranked these 20 beers:
1. AleSmith YuleSmith (Summer) - 4.85/A+
2. Bell's Hopslam - 4.75/A+
3. Stone Ruination - 4.68/A+
4. Avery Maharaja - 4.68/A+
5. Russian River Pliny the Elder - 4.53/A+
6. Founders Double Trouble - 4.4/A
7. Founders Devil Dancer - 4.33/A
8. Dogfish Head Burton Baton - 4.25/A-
9. Three Floyds Dreadnaught - 4.2/A-
10. Weyerbacher's Double Simcoe IPA - 4.2/A-
11. Oskar Blues Gordon Ale/G'Knight Ale - 3.95/B+
12. Lagunitas Maximus - 3.93/B+
13. Great Divide Hercules Double IPA - 3.9/B+
14. Victory Hop Wallop - 3.68/B
15. Lagunitas Hop Stoopid - 3.65/B
16. Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA - 3.65/B
17. Southern Tier Unearthly (Imperial IPA) - 3.6/B
18. Flying Dog Double Dog Double Pale Ale - 3.55/B
19. Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA - 3.48/B-
20. Moylan's Hopsickle Imperial India Pale Ale - 2.7/C-
My average review score for the group was a little lower than the average score from other BA members - 4.048, that is still an A-, but a lower one and the grades I most often doled out were A+ and B, both being awarded to five beers apiece. As I mentioned above, ABV did not seem to influence my score at all. To my surprise, IBUs did seem to impact my scores, but not in the way I expected. The beers that hovered right around 100 IBUs ended up doing the best with me. 100 IBUs is pretty typical for a DIPA and it was the beers on the edges of the style in terms of IBUs that fared the worst with me.
The three highest IBU beers, Weyerbacher's Double Simcoe (153), Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA (120) and Southern Tier Unearthly (150+) checked in on my list at #10, #16 and #17 respectively. Three of the four lowest IBU beers, Oskar Blues Gordon Ale (60), Lagunitas Maximus (72) and Victory Hop Wallop (70) ended up in the #11, #12 and #14 spots respectively. The only low-IBU beer that cracked my top 10 was the Dogfish Head Burton Baton (70) coming in at #8.
So what does this say about me? Probably not much except that I prefer a more traditional Double IPA. One that is about 100 IBUs.
On that note, I'm going to wrap this one up and coming soon I'll have my picks for the best beers in each category - look, smell, taste and feel. Cheers!
Thursday, May 26, 2011
20 Down, 0 To Go!
Posted by: Tyler Rippeteau
Aug. 15, 2011
I started this blog way back in January of this year. Now, about 7 months, 40 posts and 20 American Double IPAs later, I have reached my goal - to drink and review the Top 20 Most Reviewed Beers on Beer Advocate. For any of you who are active reviewers on BA and happen to be as much of a beer nerd as I am, you can understand why the little blue check marks in the picture to the right make me happy.
That, by the way, is what the list looked like right after I completed my last review - AleSmith YuleSmith (Summer). The list wasn't always in the same order, there were some changes in the rankings along the way, but all 20 beers on the original list remained there for the duration of my project and I am grateful for that.
The original list had the 20 beers ranked in this order:
1. 90 Minute IPA - Dogfish Head
2. Stone Ruination - Stone Brewing
3. Bell's Hopslam - Bell's Brewery
4. Pliny the Elder - Russian River
5. Hop Wallup - Victory
6. 120 Minute IPA - Dogfish Head
7. Maharaja - Avery Brewing
8. Dreadnaught IPA - Three Floyds
9. Hercules Double IPA - Great Divide
10. Hop Stoopid - Lagunitas
11. Burton Baton - Dogfish Head
12. Double Simcoe IPA - Weyerbacher Brewing
13. Maximus - Lagunitas
14. Gordon Ale - Oskar Blues
15. Unearthly - Southern Tier
16. Founders Devil Dancer - Founders
17. YuleSmith (Summer) - AleSmith
18. Double Dog Double Pale Ale - Flying Dog
19. Hopsickle Imperial IPA - Moylan's Brewery
20. Founder's Double Trouble - Founders
Below is what the list looks like today. You'll notice that the biggest mover was Founders Double Trouble going from 20th all the way up to 12th. It is a seasonal release from Founders that can be difficult to track down, but this past winter when it was released around the same time as Founders super-popular Kentucky Breakfast Stout the Double Trouble got a decent boost as the best Founders beer that you were allowed to buy more than two bottles of at the liquor store.
The only other real significant move was AleSmith YuleSmith. It dropped from 17th down to 20th. Sure, it is a seasonal beer that was out of season for most of the duration of this project, but I was surprised that once it was released in July it didn't jump back up. At this point, it seems to be a likely candidate for getting knocked out of the Top 20 since this year's batch is starting to dry up in the few states it is distributed in and it's only 15 reviews ahead of the number 21 spot - Smuttynose's Big A IPA - a year-round release.
1. 90 Minute IPA - Dogfish Head
2. Stone Ruination - Stone Brewing
3. Bell's Hopslam - Bell's Brewery
4. Pliny the Elder - Russian River (Will need some help finding this one for sure)
5. Hop Wallup - Victory
6. 120 Minute IPA - Dogfish Head
7. Maharaja - Avery Brewing
8. Hop Stoopid - Lagunitas
9. Dreadnaught IPA - Three Floyds
10. Hercules Double IPA - Great Divide
11. Burton Baton - Dogfish Head
12. Founders Double Trouble - Founders
13. Double Simcoe IPA - Weyerbacher Brewing
14. Maximus - Lagunitas
15. G'Knight Ale (Formerly Gordon Ale) - Oskar Blues
16. Unearthly - Southern Tier
17. Founders Devil Dancer - Founders18. Double Dog Double Pale Ale - Flying Dog
19. Hopsickle Imperial IPA - Moylan's Brewery
20. YuleSmith (Summer) - AleSmith
I did not reach my goal of finishing this project before I moved to Boulder, but I did get pretty close - only reviewing one beer here in Colorado.
By the way, some of the other stats from this project:
10 beers were distributed year-round in Chicago and I had no problem getting my hands on them, they were:
Dogfish Head 90 Minute
Stone Ruination
Victory Hop Wallop
Lagunitas Hop Stoopid
Lagunitas Maximus
Three Floyds Dreadnaught
Great Divide Hercules
Southern Tier Unearthly
Flying Dog Double Dog Double Pale Ale
Moylan's Hopsickle
7 Beers were seasonal or only made a few times a year and I had to wait for them:
Bell's Hopslam
Dogfish Head 120 Minute
Dogfish Head Burton Baton
Founders Double Trouble
Founders Devil Dancer
Avery Maharaja
AleSmith YuleSmith (Summer)
4 Beers were not distributed to Illinois at all:
Russian River Pliny the Elder
Oskar Blues G'Knight Ale
AleSmith YuleSmith
Weyerbacher Double Simcoe IPA
I travelled to get the G'Knight and the Russian River. Oddly, I now live a half an hour away from the Oskar Blues brewery, but I ended up trying it for the first time in Nashville, Tennessee over the winter. The Russian River I had for the first time when visiting Estes Park, Colorado before I moved to the state.
The Double Simcoe and the YuleSmith I got in trades. Thanks to nevins and ren over at Beer Advocate for being great traders and coming though for me.
In addition to having to travel and trade for some of these beers I almost missed out on two of them even though they were distributed in Illinois. The Dogfish 120 Minute IPA was an exceptionally rare beer this year. After not producing it for quite some time Sam and the guys over in Milton, DE finally put together a small batch of it, but demand was very high and supply extremely low. My former roommate worked at one of the biggest Whole Foods in Illinois and his store only got 8 beers. One of which he was able to snag for me for $12 only because a customer who was on the waiting list for it failed to show up. I later managed to get spoiled with two bottles at my local hang-out in Evanston - and that was 25% of their supply.
The other tough one was Founders Devil Dancer, which oddly was released on the same day. I miscalculated how much of it would be available and I focused all my efforts on finding the 120. As it turned out, however, while liquor stores were only allowing one bottle per customer of the 120 Minute, they were only allowing two Devil Dancers. After I finally got the Dogfish I turned my attention towards the Founders offering and realized quickly that I might have screwed up big time. None of my regular bars or liquor stores had it by the time I got around to searching for it. I then proceeded to do a ton of research and make about 25 phone calls before I was able to find a full 4-pack. At least it was full until Dan, my brother-in-law agreed to drive me 30 minutes to go pick it up. As a new DIPA enthusiast, his fee was one of the four bottles. Thanks Dan!
Speaking of thanks, I had to rely on a lot of help from several people and they all deserve a big round of applause: Emily, Dan, nevins, ren, Robb from Poppy's Pizza in Estes Park, Kyle and Phil from Prairie Moon in Evanston, Carlos at Fischman's, Beer Advocate, r/beer and all of you who have read the blog, especially those who commented on the site. It has been a blast. We're not quite done yet though, there will be a 20 Beers in 20 Nights Awards posting for the DIPA Project along with rankings. Not 100% sure when, but it's coming soon.
Aug. 15, 2011
I started this blog way back in January of this year. Now, about 7 months, 40 posts and 20 American Double IPAs later, I have reached my goal - to drink and review the Top 20 Most Reviewed Beers on Beer Advocate. For any of you who are active reviewers on BA and happen to be as much of a beer nerd as I am, you can understand why the little blue check marks in the picture to the right make me happy.
That, by the way, is what the list looked like right after I completed my last review - AleSmith YuleSmith (Summer). The list wasn't always in the same order, there were some changes in the rankings along the way, but all 20 beers on the original list remained there for the duration of my project and I am grateful for that.
The original list had the 20 beers ranked in this order:
1. 90 Minute IPA - Dogfish Head
2. Stone Ruination - Stone Brewing
3. Bell's Hopslam - Bell's Brewery
4. Pliny the Elder - Russian River
5. Hop Wallup - Victory
6. 120 Minute IPA - Dogfish Head
7. Maharaja - Avery Brewing
8. Dreadnaught IPA - Three Floyds
9. Hercules Double IPA - Great Divide
10. Hop Stoopid - Lagunitas
11. Burton Baton - Dogfish Head
12. Double Simcoe IPA - Weyerbacher Brewing
13. Maximus - Lagunitas
14. Gordon Ale - Oskar Blues
15. Unearthly - Southern Tier
16. Founders Devil Dancer - Founders
17. YuleSmith (Summer) - AleSmith
18. Double Dog Double Pale Ale - Flying Dog
19. Hopsickle Imperial IPA - Moylan's Brewery
20. Founder's Double Trouble - Founders
Below is what the list looks like today. You'll notice that the biggest mover was Founders Double Trouble going from 20th all the way up to 12th. It is a seasonal release from Founders that can be difficult to track down, but this past winter when it was released around the same time as Founders super-popular Kentucky Breakfast Stout the Double Trouble got a decent boost as the best Founders beer that you were allowed to buy more than two bottles of at the liquor store.
The only other real significant move was AleSmith YuleSmith. It dropped from 17th down to 20th. Sure, it is a seasonal beer that was out of season for most of the duration of this project, but I was surprised that once it was released in July it didn't jump back up. At this point, it seems to be a likely candidate for getting knocked out of the Top 20 since this year's batch is starting to dry up in the few states it is distributed in and it's only 15 reviews ahead of the number 21 spot - Smuttynose's Big A IPA - a year-round release.
3. Bell's Hopslam - Bell's Brewery
4. Pliny the Elder - Russian River (Will need some help finding this one for sure)
5. Hop Wallup - Victory
9. Dreadnaught IPA - Three Floyds
10. Hercules Double IPA - Great Divide
11. Burton Baton - Dogfish Head
13. Double Simcoe IPA - Weyerbacher Brewing
14. Maximus - Lagunitas
15. G'Knight Ale (Formerly Gordon Ale) - Oskar Blues
I did not reach my goal of finishing this project before I moved to Boulder, but I did get pretty close - only reviewing one beer here in Colorado.
By the way, some of the other stats from this project:
10 beers were distributed year-round in Chicago and I had no problem getting my hands on them, they were:
Dogfish Head 90 Minute
Stone Ruination
Victory Hop Wallop
Lagunitas Hop Stoopid
Lagunitas Maximus
Three Floyds Dreadnaught
Great Divide Hercules
Southern Tier Unearthly
Flying Dog Double Dog Double Pale Ale
Moylan's Hopsickle
7 Beers were seasonal or only made a few times a year and I had to wait for them:
Bell's Hopslam
Dogfish Head 120 Minute
Dogfish Head Burton Baton
Founders Double Trouble
Founders Devil Dancer
Avery Maharaja
AleSmith YuleSmith (Summer)
4 Beers were not distributed to Illinois at all:
Russian River Pliny the Elder
Oskar Blues G'Knight Ale
AleSmith YuleSmith
Weyerbacher Double Simcoe IPA
I travelled to get the G'Knight and the Russian River. Oddly, I now live a half an hour away from the Oskar Blues brewery, but I ended up trying it for the first time in Nashville, Tennessee over the winter. The Russian River I had for the first time when visiting Estes Park, Colorado before I moved to the state.
The Double Simcoe and the YuleSmith I got in trades. Thanks to nevins and ren over at Beer Advocate for being great traders and coming though for me.
In addition to having to travel and trade for some of these beers I almost missed out on two of them even though they were distributed in Illinois. The Dogfish 120 Minute IPA was an exceptionally rare beer this year. After not producing it for quite some time Sam and the guys over in Milton, DE finally put together a small batch of it, but demand was very high and supply extremely low. My former roommate worked at one of the biggest Whole Foods in Illinois and his store only got 8 beers. One of which he was able to snag for me for $12 only because a customer who was on the waiting list for it failed to show up. I later managed to get spoiled with two bottles at my local hang-out in Evanston - and that was 25% of their supply.
The other tough one was Founders Devil Dancer, which oddly was released on the same day. I miscalculated how much of it would be available and I focused all my efforts on finding the 120. As it turned out, however, while liquor stores were only allowing one bottle per customer of the 120 Minute, they were only allowing two Devil Dancers. After I finally got the Dogfish I turned my attention towards the Founders offering and realized quickly that I might have screwed up big time. None of my regular bars or liquor stores had it by the time I got around to searching for it. I then proceeded to do a ton of research and make about 25 phone calls before I was able to find a full 4-pack. At least it was full until Dan, my brother-in-law agreed to drive me 30 minutes to go pick it up. As a new DIPA enthusiast, his fee was one of the four bottles. Thanks Dan!
Speaking of thanks, I had to rely on a lot of help from several people and they all deserve a big round of applause: Emily, Dan, nevins, ren, Robb from Poppy's Pizza in Estes Park, Kyle and Phil from Prairie Moon in Evanston, Carlos at Fischman's, Beer Advocate, r/beer and all of you who have read the blog, especially those who commented on the site. It has been a blast. We're not quite done yet though, there will be a 20 Beers in 20 Nights Awards posting for the DIPA Project along with rankings. Not 100% sure when, but it's coming soon.
Wednesday, March 30, 2011
Finally Pliny! Review #10 - Russian River Pliny the Elder
Posted by: Stonecipher
Mar. 28, 2011
Finally! A Russian River Pliny the Elder! I have been to the top of the mountain and I have seen the Pliny! Seriously, I pretty much had to go to the top of a mountain to finally get my hands and taste buds on this thing. After a brutal disappointment at the Falling Rock Tap House in Denver earlier this week, the woman and I trekked up Highway 36 to Estes Park, Colorado. Our target was a pizza place called Poppy’s that was rumored to have the Pliny on tap along with some outstanding pizza.
Before getting into this review, though, I need to say a few words about Poppy’s – it was downright awesome. In fact, I believe that for many years this will be one of the more memorable experiences I’ve ever had at a restaurant.
For starters, Russian River’s Pliny the Elder was actually on tap at Poppy’s and it was brought out to us by Rob, the owner of Poppy’s. He asked if we had ever tried it before and when we told him we had not he spent about five minutes talking to us about it. One of the things he wanted us to take note of, aside from the spectacular aroma, was the color. He loved the color of the Pliny and really wanted us to appreciate it. We did.
This, of course led to more beer conversation and to make a long-story-short, after finishing our fantastic dinner Rob stopped back at the table and spent about 20 minutes with us talking beer and bringing out samples of some of his favorites. He helped us narrow our dessert beer down to two Barley Wines and when we finally settled on one, he brought out a bottle of the other for us to take home.
Since you may be wondering, the Barley Wine we drank in the restaurant was Moylan’s Old Blarney Barleywine, a tough beer to find, and it was outstanding. The other was a Canadian Barley Wine called Solstice d'hiver from a Montreal's Brasserie Dieu du Ciel. Anyhow, enough back story, here’s some specs on Russian River’s Pliny the Elder before we begin the review:
ABV: 8.0%
IBUs: 100
Brewery Location: Santa Rosa, California
Style: American Double/Imperial India Pale Ale
My Beer Advocate Rating: A+/4.53 – World Class
Current Number of Reviews/Rank in the Top 20 on Beer Advocate: 1,999/4th
Brewery Description: Pliny the Elder
Bottled On: NA
APPEARANCE: (4 out of 5) The Pliny was poured into a couple of tulip glasses and just as Rob instructed, we took note of the gorgeous, orange and ever so slightly hazy color. The head was not enormous, but bubbles continued to flit to the top of the glass throughout the pint making the beer look very lively. The lacing was solid with a thick wall of lace on the opposite side of the glass.
SMELL: (5 out of 5) I know that at some point in my beer reviewing past I claimed that some other beer was the best beer I had ever smelled. Before I tried a Pliny I remembered what that beer’s name was. Now if anyone asks what’s the best smelling beer I’ve ever had there will be no hesitation or pause to think – the answer is clearly Russian River’s Pliny the Elder. As my notes say, the Pliny “…smells like flowers. Like delicious, hoppy, magic flowers.” I had my nose in the glass for about five minutes before taking my first sip and I kept sticking it back in throughout both glasses I had.
TASTE: (4.5 out of 5) The Pliny takes the palate on precisely the balanced ride that it is supposed to go on with every Double IPA it encounters. It may sound odd to say, but Pliny the Elder is a very technically sound DIPA. Starting out sweet and piney the hops kick in towards the end of the sip along with strong floral flavors and a hint of honey. Elegant is Pliny the Elder in a word, at no point does it taste too sweet or too bitter. It is a near perfectly balanced beer.
MOUTHFEEL: (4 out of 5) As I mentioned above, bubbles continuously floated to the top of the glass throughout the entire pint and that kept the beer lively during the whole experience. It was certainly better carbonated than many DIPAs, but it also had a slightly oily feel to it.
OVERALL: (4.5 out of 5) I am very happy I was finally able to track down a couple of pints. The hype is well-deserved, but may have also served to disappoint me just a bit. This is everything a Double IPA, and in my mind, a beer should be - almost perfect balance with an absolutely spectacular nose, but not quite the life-changing event some have made it out to be. That said, I thoroughly enjoyed this beer and it would have been easy to keep drinking this stuff all night.
DRAWBACKS: There are very few holes to poke in Pliny the Elder’s quality, but I will say it was not quite as exciting as I thought it would be. While I appreciate the accuracy and precision with which Russian River crafted this Double India Pale Ale, it did not become my favorite beer ever. It may very well have been the best beer I have ever had, just not my personal favorite, which is what I was expecting from all of the hype. My favorite beer needs to have something distinctive, something that sets it apart from the rest.
SOUND: Some of the most technically sound music I have ever heard has come from James Brown and his musicians. One particular song that stood out to me as one of the finest examples of the Godfather of Soul’s talent and precision was “Give it Up or Turn it Loose” – a perfect song to sum up the same precision that is Pliny the Elder.
Can Anyone Beat this Selection of American Craft Beers at the Moment?
Posted by: Stonecipher
March 30, 2011
A string of excellent luck, hard work and perseverance over the past month and a half have suddenly led me to have all of this:
This is certainly the best lineup I have ever had at one time. I fought hard for the KBS, I searched high and low for the Pliny, I traveled over 2,000 miles to bring the Consecration, Oak Aged Yeti and G'Knight home and I schmoozed the right people here in Chicago to get all the Bourbon County stuff. Funny that it all happened to show up at roughly the same time.
EDIT: For the record, I forgot to include The Abyss in the picture.
I'm curious to hear what everyone else has, if anyone thinks they can best this current collection.
I do have a lot more beer at the moment, multiples of many of these and plenty more from all the breweries represented, but I thought these were the best examples of the most impressive beers out there at the moment. In case anyone is wondering, here is the list from left to right:
FRONT ROW:
Russian River - Pliny the Elder
Founders - Kentucky Breakfast Stout
Founders - Double Trouble
Lagunitas - Hop Stoopid
Avery - Maharaja
Great Divide - Oak Aged Yeti
Great Divide - Old Ruffian
Russian River - Consecration
Oskar Blues - G'Knight
Goose Island - Bourbon County Brand Stout
BACK ROW:
Goose Island - Rare Bourbon County Stout
Goose Island - Bourbon County Brand Vanilla Stout
March 30, 2011
A string of excellent luck, hard work and perseverance over the past month and a half have suddenly led me to have all of this:
This is certainly the best lineup I have ever had at one time. I fought hard for the KBS, I searched high and low for the Pliny, I traveled over 2,000 miles to bring the Consecration, Oak Aged Yeti and G'Knight home and I schmoozed the right people here in Chicago to get all the Bourbon County stuff. Funny that it all happened to show up at roughly the same time.
EDIT: For the record, I forgot to include The Abyss in the picture.
I'm curious to hear what everyone else has, if anyone thinks they can best this current collection.
I do have a lot more beer at the moment, multiples of many of these and plenty more from all the breweries represented, but I thought these were the best examples of the most impressive beers out there at the moment. In case anyone is wondering, here is the list from left to right:
FRONT ROW:
Russian River - Pliny the Elder
Founders - Kentucky Breakfast Stout
Founders - Double Trouble
Lagunitas - Hop Stoopid
Avery - Maharaja
Great Divide - Oak Aged Yeti
Great Divide - Old Ruffian
Russian River - Consecration
Oskar Blues - G'Knight
Goose Island - Bourbon County Brand Stout
BACK ROW:
Goose Island - Rare Bourbon County Stout
Goose Island - Bourbon County Brand Vanilla Stout
Monday, January 31, 2011
A Plea for Pliny
Posted by: Tyler Rippeteau
Jan. 31, 2011
My efforts on Beer Advocate to reach a trade agreement with someone in posession of some of Russian River's "Pliny the Elder" (and "Pliny the Younger" for that matter) have come up short. So, while I will be looking to r/beertrade as well, I thought I would put out a plea for it here on the site as well. I would prefer to do the trade via BA or Reddit, but I am open to other arrangements as well. Get in touch if you can help me out on this one. I have a feeling it is going to be the most difficult of the Top 20 for me to track down, so I'm trying to get on this early in the process.
On a seperate note, even though I have only just begun the process of working through the Top 20 Double IPAs on Beer Advocate, I have some ideas about what the next 20 beers will be, but I want to hear your suggestions as well. They do not necessarily have to be from Beer Advocate, nor do they necessarily have to have a theme. The theme could simply be 20 beers that YOU want to see reviewed. If you have any thoughts or ideas, leave a comment below and we'll go from there.
Finally, be on the look out tonight for my review of Great Divide's "Hercules" Double IPA. It is currently ranked 10th on the list with 1,183 reviews averaging out to an A-. So we'll see where I land on the issue. The beer is currently chilling in the fridge and I'm excited!
Jan. 31, 2011
My efforts on Beer Advocate to reach a trade agreement with someone in posession of some of Russian River's "Pliny the Elder" (and "Pliny the Younger" for that matter) have come up short. So, while I will be looking to r/beertrade as well, I thought I would put out a plea for it here on the site as well. I would prefer to do the trade via BA or Reddit, but I am open to other arrangements as well. Get in touch if you can help me out on this one. I have a feeling it is going to be the most difficult of the Top 20 for me to track down, so I'm trying to get on this early in the process.
On a seperate note, even though I have only just begun the process of working through the Top 20 Double IPAs on Beer Advocate, I have some ideas about what the next 20 beers will be, but I want to hear your suggestions as well. They do not necessarily have to be from Beer Advocate, nor do they necessarily have to have a theme. The theme could simply be 20 beers that YOU want to see reviewed. If you have any thoughts or ideas, leave a comment below and we'll go from there.
Finally, be on the look out tonight for my review of Great Divide's "Hercules" Double IPA. It is currently ranked 10th on the list with 1,183 reviews averaging out to an A-. So we'll see where I land on the issue. The beer is currently chilling in the fridge and I'm excited!
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